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First Three Years of Pool Play - A Look Back


This weekend will be the fourth round of pool play since the softball tournament switched formats back in 2012.

Overall, 45 of 53 #1 seeds, and 37 of 53 #2s have advanced to the second weekend.

17 #3s and 7 #4s have crashed the party and moved on, as well.

Let's take a look:


2014

* 17 of 18 #1 seeds advanced to the second weekend; of those, 7 were pool winners and 10 finished second. The only #1 not to advance? #6 Ohio State, after posting an 0-3 record in Pod F.

* 12 of 18 #2 seeds advanced, 7 winners and 5 runner-ups. The 6 that were sent packing? Michigan (tough draw with American and Maryland), Michigan State (ditto with Georgia and UCF), Washington, William & Mary, UMass, and Emory.

* 6 of 18 #3 seeds advanced, including 3 pod winners. The six survivors: Maryland, California, UCF, Navy, Northwestern, and George Washington.

* 1 of 18 #4 seeds advanced: Texas went 3-0 to win their pod and advance.


2013

* 14 of 17 #1 seeds advanced beyond pool play, with 12 winners and 2 runners-up. The three #1s sent packing: Richmond (the overall #1 seed, knocked out on tiebreakers after finishing 2-1), Georgetown, and William & Mary.

* 15 of 17 #2 seeds advanced, with 4 pod winners and 11 second-place finishes. The two left wondering what might have been? Illinois (finished 2-1 but lost out on tiebreakers) and Cornell.

* Only 1 of 17 #3 seeds advanced: Colorado moved on after a 2-1 tiebreaker with #1 overall seed Richmond.

* 4 of 17 #4 seeds advanced. George Washington won their pod on a tiebreaker after going 2-1, while Virginia, Wisconsin, and Carnegie Mellon finished second in their respective pods to advance.


2012
Note that there were no pod winner / runner-up designations in 2012; the top two teams from each pod advanced without regard for pod record.

* 14 of 18 #1 seeds advanced to the second weekend. The four whose dreams were dashed on the rocky shores of Goddard? Penn State, Dayton, Boston College, and UMass.

* 10 of 18 #2 seeds marched on. Those left behind? Minnesota, LSU, Navy, Cal, Yale, Syracuse, Ohio State, and Bucknell.

* 10 of 18 #3 seeds moved on, as well. The lucky 10: Auburn, Pittsburgh, Virginia, Nebraska, Texas, Xavier, Indiana, Elon, Florida, and West Virginia.

* Only 2 of 18 #4 seeds advanced: Arizona and Delaware.
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Another tidbit.....since pool play has been adapted, the winner of the Arizona State pod has gone to the Championship game each year with Catholic as the only team to lose last year.

Watch out for Pod J winner!
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What is the general consensus about pool play?

Do people like this format better than the previous tournament format?
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quote:

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Do people like this format better than the previous tournament format?



I completely prefer it over the old format on multiple levels.

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I've heard near universal agreement that pool play is better than double elimination in terms of on-field play, games of interest, and general social/camaraderie. There have been some minor controversies and every year a few teams get hosed when it comes to game times, but overall, it's a great system for a league with this many teams.
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Since it didn't come down to it... what were the options if USC were in and we had 69 teams?

1 pod of 5? Would each team randomly not play one of the other teams? Or would there be a set lineup where certain seeds had to play each other?

3 pods of 3? Same questions, but how do you decide which team each team plays twice?

Now that I'm thinking of it, it couldn't be possible unless some of the teams played more than 3 games in pod play.

I'm sure we will have to deal with this sooner or later.
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quote:

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What is the general consensus about pool play?

Do people like this format better than the previous tournament format?



Much prefer this format. Very clean, simple, easy to coordinate your team.
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Yes, pod format 100%!
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quote:

DCKnights wrote:
Do people like this format better than the previous tournament format?



I completely prefer it over the old format on multiple levels.




Not to bring up old stuff but I am 100% on the other side of this argument. Just think the old format was much better for lots of reasons. But rather than list them here and go to negative town right before the tourney, I choose to just accept it and move on.


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quote:

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What is the general consensus about pool play?

Do people like this format better than the previous tournament format?



I don't hate it, I think it's kind of fun.

But I would defiantly throw in the snake draft pod pairings thrown around in years past. Let the top teams truly get their advantage for their position and pick the teams they want in their pod.

THAT would make the current format even better. How embarrassing would it be for a 1 seed to not advance after they picked the 3 teams in their pod.
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